Meta Relevant Dark Magician (30-0 Undefeated)

Deck Information
Deck Type: Non-Meta Decks
Deck Master: Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon
TCG/OCG: Both.
Submission Date: October 6th 2020
Author: jobe04051993
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You either got it or you don't. This deck is meta ready, you might lose a match but you can win 2 out of 3 matches. That easy. Took out meta tiers, rogue tiers, casual tiers, nexus AI OCG decks, and more. That's 30+ victories if we're excluding any single matches as well.



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MonsterDark Magician x2
Apprentice Illusion Magician x3
Dark Magician Girl x2
Magician's Rod x3
Magicians' Souls x3
SpellsDark Magical Circle x3
Allure of Darkness x2
Dark Magic Attack x1
Pot of Duality x1
Spellbook of Knowledge x2
The Eye of Timaeus x2
Called by the Grave x1
Forbidden Droplet x2
Secrets of Dark Magic x2
Shared Ride x3
Soul Servant x3
TrapsEvenly Matched x2
Infinite Impermanence x3
ExtraDark Magician the Dragon Knight x1
Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon x2
Dark Paladin x1
Dark Cavalry x1
The Dark Magicians x2
Predaplant Dragostapelia x1
Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight x1
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178 thoughts on “Meta Relevant Dark Magician (30-0 Undefeated)


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    October 6, 2020 at 3:39 am

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    This is the current Metagame Tier list correct?
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    If so, then I beaten all them with this deck and Im STILL UNDEFEATED. All facts. Dragon Link players were angry and surrendered but my favorite was the Predaplant/Dragoon OCG match up. This player didnt stand a chance even with Maxx C. I didnt even use illegal cards, that’s how good this deck is. Infernobles, Salamangreats players were rage quitting also but most players took their losses like champs. Best meta relevant deck in awhile.
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    Will Dark Magician go to the WCS this year?

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    October 6, 2020 at 3:49 am

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    Best Maxx C replacement/alternative I could use was Shared Ride that helped out a lot. Dragon Link players hates Shared Ride when you chain it as they search on their turn. Lmfao. Really unexpected this deck to hit hard as it did. But still I rather have 3 Maxx Cs over Shared Ride.
    NOTE: Also I switched out Duality with Draw of Fate. Draw of Fate is going to be your best searcher AND CLUTCH card in the metagame match ups. Your opponents will be upset. Lmao. Also, best tech for Maxx C and Shared Ride would be Droll too. Droll def can stop a lot of searches so if you into that, can be a great choice instead of Shared Ride.

    Also check out the link below to see how DM could be meta with its own support if Konami were to create one (that I created):
    https://ygoprodeck.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=21876&p=27771#p27771

    8-)

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    October 6, 2020 at 4:12 am

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    Hey I see you posting a lot, it looks like your lists have been getting better lately 😊 my one suggestion would be to consider droll instead of shared ride, I personally find it to hit much harder against tier 1.

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    October 6, 2020 at 4:22 am

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    Yeah you right, thats a good tech also. (I forgot to put a side deck together, smh)

    Best Maxx C alternatives/substitutes: Shared Ride or Droll & Lock Bird

    Pot of Duality alternatives: Draw of Fate or an extra Allure of Darkness or Joyous

    Spellbook of Knowledge alternatives: Pot of Desires or Reckless Greed

    Whatever works for most players, it depends. The traps dont need alternatives. Called by the Grave & Forbidden Droplet dont need alternatives either. Good deck by far. Anyways, thanks for trying it out and checking it out!

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    October 6, 2020 at 4:39 am

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    This deck is tournament ready.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:58 am

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    This isn’t even close to meta relevance

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:28 am

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    Umm what? If it wasn’t, explain my win above? And explain 30+ wins from all my matches? You dont have a clue how this deck work do you? Exactly.

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    October 6, 2020 at 11:49 am

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    Jobe, responses like that are why people get upset with you. Why don’t you ask him what he thinks should be done to improve this list? It’s nice to be 30-0, sure. But keep in mind you’re playing on Nexus which is full of surrender monkeys and people with bad internet who’s connection drops due to how unstable it is. And you’ve let all of that consistently go to your head. When in-person tournaments resume, bring your “Undefeated Meta Ready” Dark Magician deck to a major event and see how you fair. Maybe we’re wrong and you can go undefeated on the day, or you can go x-2 drop and finally be humbled.

    Have a lovely day. :)

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    October 6, 2020 at 12:53 pm

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    I mean I 2-0’d him and he was a tad more humble after that loss, he at least runs 1 hand trap now

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    October 6, 2020 at 1:42 pm

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    dude, play on duelingbook. dueling nexus isn’t a good place to gauge skill, at all.

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    October 6, 2020 at 3:34 pm

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    Bro… These 30-0 wins aren’t from skill. People use Nexus to test decks and most of the time, they’re not surrendering; they’re just losing connection due to Nexus’ piss poor connection. I love Nexus but jesus man, you can’t rely on it. It’s just for testing out decks and messing around, and your reliance on it just proves that you’re both not a good player and these decks aren’t at all good. DM’s have never been good and won’t be good, for the love of god, stop trying to make them “meta”. Just play Salamangreats like the rest of us.

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    October 6, 2020 at 4:47 pm

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    Shaddoll Orcust is somewhat better than this….

    And lemme tell ya why! And maybe some weaknesses too, but why it’s better than DM.

    First, the only real out to this deck is to either hit the normal or use Abyss Dweller. With the lack of Dweller, this deck can shine a bit into the rouge tier, which is WAY better than what DM can do, sure they can end on one negate, maybe another disruption, but that nothing to two set fog blade, a crescendo, and a Winda. This has two monster negates, that are in archetype searchable fiendish chain, and an omni negate that banishes! Imagine an Orcust player banishing you’re Dragoon when you try to either pop or chain to negate! It’s hilarious how I pulled it off on Duelingbook and in Nexus, Duelingbook was way funnier because we needed a judge to clear it up. The worse we can end on is a Crescendo with Galatea tbh. Also this deck can include the rather bricky Red-Eyes Dragoon package. And we can have a lot of consistency with Allure, Return, and Dark World Dealings (though it pluses you’re opponent too, I only play it for the discard). We just have way better skill here in the Orcust community, as we don’t brick on high level spellcasters that we can’t summon, rage quit, then go back and beat someone and lie about such a streak for a deck that was only considered by TeamSamuraiX1 because of Magicians’ Souls, which is more of a SPYRAL and Eldich card than a DM card

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    October 6, 2020 at 4:51 pm

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    Sorry if I ruined your spirits, also Dragon Link doesn’t surrender to this deck at all in DB, which is WAY better than Nexus. That being because us good players who know how to play the game us it everyday. I don’t even test on Nexus unless I have too, which is never, because I know most of the wins are from people that either have bad connection or rage quit because they bricked again on the Red-Eyes engine

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    October 6, 2020 at 4:53 pm

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    Not “somewhat”; Shaddol Orcust is a god compared to this deck.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:14 pm

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    Not surprising seeing doubters. Dragon Link player surrendered in both matches after I negated Striker Dragon and used either Droll/or Shared Ride after they searched with Rokket, then right after that I negated their core card again so they surrendered again. Im still 2-1 against Dragon Link. That’s facts because I went first in each match.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:16 pm

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    You didnt humble me. This was the deck I had planned for you and I never got to use it against you. But it did take out Infernobles with ease. You can try it anytime… if you dare.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:19 pm

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    Umm no. Orcust sucks especially being an engine for Shaddolls. Def beaten Shaddoll/Orcust with weaker DM decks. Not a threat to me in single matches either.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:23 pm

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    Umm what again? Dragon Link kept getting negated and blocked from searching or outpaced in drawing whem they added Rokket cards to their hand. I put my opponent in a bad spot when I went first. Red Eyes was sn OCG Predaplant Deck that Konami created thats why you see Maxx C in the opponents GY. I didn’t even have to use illegal cards to take out both Dragoons. I outplayed both Dragoons with ease.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:27 pm

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    They definitely had skill. These were highly profiled competitive decks that OCG/TCG Tier players uses, the exact same deck format. Some wasnt easy to beat. Hardest match up was none of them because I kept negating core cards and blocking their searches/or out drawing them when they were searching while still negating/stopping plays. Also to me DM is meta now.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:31 pm

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    If Shaddol/Orcust sucks, then duel them; and watch your board crumble. Also, nobody “highly profiled” uses Nexus. You have no way of knowing that on Nexus because there’s no chat, so that just confirms you’re pulling most of this out of your ass. What else are you pulling out of your ass? Your “win” streak?

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:33 pm

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    Also, as a long-time lurker of your bullshit, I can confirm the duck man Soulking humbled you. You started making excuses like “i wasn’t using my real deck” and “I was in public and busy at the time” when you lost. Right after, you finally started using stuff like Links and hand traps.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:35 pm

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    Crumble what board? They never crumbled my board before with weaker DM decks so what would make it so different now? Nexus players do use high profiles as much as the wack ass Duelingbook does. Even in single matches… dueled them before and I lost to some. Why dont you duel me on Nexus to see if Im wrong then?

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:36 pm

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    Oh wait, my bad; you gave up on hand traps for the worthless Dark Magician legacy support, because you can’t get over a badly written anime that aired over ten years ago.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:37 pm

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    Also, “high profile” players don’t really play online. If they do, they use DuelingBook. Sure, I can duel you on Nexus. I have classes right now though. I’ll tell you when i’m free.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:39 pm

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    Yeah because it wasnt my real DM deck. I got a bunch of DM decks… everyone knows this. The one I use was a test deck and I didn’t switch it. His Infernoble was trash. Easily beatable if I used this decklist. I been using handtraps before dueling him. So no. I only use Imduk for Secrets of Dark Magic. I rarely use Links because my deck is powerful without them.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:42 pm

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    If you can read, Im referring to HIGH PROFILED DECKS first of all. DuelingBook manual is trash, its too slow, and the mechanics take too long to do anything. I been on there. Nexus is faster without the extra bullshit. Book is not a real life TCG manual so no. That site is trash and the players on there too.

    Yup. Come see me on Nexus I’ll be waiting for you.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:44 pm

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    See? Your’e using excuses like that. You just jump around between DM deck to DM deck, adding in cards based on your mood. You don’t even use a side deck. The deck isn’t powerful; it’s a nostalgia deck fit for a casual tourney. Upgrading past decks is understandable, but all you do is make new and “improved” DM decks, with more nostalgia filling in the gaps.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:45 pm

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    Also, dueling book is literally made to replicate how the actual game works. It’s how it works. Dzeef, an acutal top player, uses DuelingBook. I use Nexus and DuelingBook, but I just use Nexus to fuck around. Again, i’ll tell you when i’m free; I have classes right now.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:46 pm

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    Yeah if I hit you with Droll. Tf you gonna do? :lol: “This deck isnt even that powerful”. Lmfao Keep telling yourself that.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:48 pm

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    Oh wow a damn TCG Youtuber. I dont care if he does or not. The site is still not a real TCG manual. Konami dont even claim the wack ass site.

    Let me know when you ready, inbox me first so I can set this up.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:49 pm

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    Uh, continue my plays…? You say that as if Droll is a lockdown card. You rely on stuff like that way too much, dude.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:49 pm

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    Also, how do I inbox you? My apologies, i’m fairly new to this site.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:50 pm

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    What plays? Most meta decks rely on searching. What deck you using against me? Just to be curious.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:51 pm

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    Go to your profile and you can a PM. If not, I’ll send one to you.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:54 pm

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    Could you send me a PM first? I’m stoopid. Also, who knows. I might play my Kaijus, but I also might play Phantom Knights. I don’t play many Meta decks.

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    October 6, 2020 at 5:59 pm

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    Jobe, are you measuring your wins in single games or full matches?

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:06 pm

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    Both. But full matches mainly. I can still lose in a single if not careful since it be one sided.

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:08 pm

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    Oh okay cool. I’ll def PM you later when is a good time for you? I’m on Central Time.

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:10 pm

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    2 PM, Pacific Standard. I’m not a competitive player or anything, so to be honest, i’m definetly at a equal playing field as you.

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:24 pm

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    IF you want to trash talk other decks you should learn about the deck’s strategy then comment on the flaws, but you should start editing your own deck because it may have beat people on Dueling Nexus it probably won’t in Dueling Book because your deck is too situational. Also why are running Dark Magician Girl when you could be running Palladum Oracle Mahad? You should start running more links because alot of them have game changing effects like Borresword Dragon or Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess. You also need to remember to talk to these other people kindly because they are just trying to help and your excuses are doing nothing but getting these people irratated with you.

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:26 pm

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    Well, I want to try and point out flaws with Jobe’s decks and such; it’s literally impossible though, because he just ignores everything. Also, Jobe refuses to explain the deck strategy, just saying “if you know you know”; my understanding is to build a board of the shitty vanilla DM and Dragoon and then go in for an OTK.

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:53 pm

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    Well Jobe, one we Orcust players have topped more events than you, same with Shaddoll. They’re weird as an engine, that’s for sure but you lose to Droll. If I were to chain Crescendo to Dragoon trying to negate something I for sure know you would either surrender or rage quit. This deck loses hard to the meta easily. I literally tried this deck and got 2 wins with it out of 30. Two. Wins. And that was bye what you were saying.

    Another thing to note, if they surrendered to getting droll’d, they could’ve still ended on a Hieratic. Also chain blocking exists. Infernobles don’t suck, neither does SoulKing (ah the irony)

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    October 6, 2020 at 6:55 pm

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    Also we don’t have many weak spots (ok you called my bluff but consistency am I right?). If you beat it, prove it. May I remind you that most of these duels are mediocre besides being on Nexus.

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    October 6, 2020 at 9:20 pm

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    Alright man it’s 4:20pm. You wanna do this now? Or tomorrow?

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    October 6, 2020 at 11:12 pm

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    PM me for the match tomorrow since you didnt show up.

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    October 6, 2020 at 11:33 pm

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    My apologies; some IRL stuff came up. Do you still want to duel today?

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    October 7, 2020 at 4:02 am

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    Tomorrow will do. Check back here around 4pm and I will post a link to meet me there.

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    October 7, 2020 at 3:42 pm

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    Got it. Sorry for not showing up, I had to attend to some stuff IRL.

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    October 7, 2020 at 5:28 pm

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    Yeah anyways just let me know here or I’ll let you know when I send a PM around that time.

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    October 7, 2020 at 10:28 pm

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    I want to watch :)

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    October 8, 2020 at 12:31 am

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    Sure. I just idk how to screen record.

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    October 8, 2020 at 1:30 am

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    You could snap with screen shots.

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    October 8, 2020 at 3:27 am

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    What is your out to dragoon? Just the apprentice illusion and droplets?

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    October 8, 2020 at 12:38 pm

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    This deck is terrible. It has no disruption outside of a bunch of unsearchable spells and traps. The only way it can summon its “boss monster” is with a spell card it cant even search or use off of verte anaconda. It only has 3 handtraps for the entire deck when most actual meta decks run 6 to 9 as a start, its missing most of the dm staple cards like eternal soul navigation and its ratios are terrible. Please say you are a troll.

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    October 8, 2020 at 3:41 pm

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    This man claims that HTs are bad, therefore only running 3. He does not care about your suggestions. I suggest not wasting your time here.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:07 pm

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    Yes.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:10 pm

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    Hand traps that are bad: Effect Veiler, Joyous, nearly all the monsters except Droll. I think monster hand traps are the worst.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:14 pm

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    Wha? Effect Veiler isn’t super good anymore due to stuff like Imperm but is a fairly good budget option. Joyous is great, it’s a staple 3 of. Droll is also great, as most meta/competitive decks are searching and drawing.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:15 pm

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    Really? Yet Ash Blossom & Joyous Springs is a generic meant for every deck.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:17 pm

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    Deck is terrible how? I just beat the Top Tier Dragon Link with this deck. Disruptions? It does. Impermanence, Illusion, Droplets, CBTG and Droll (if you dont want to use Shared Ride to draw).

    DM staple cards DOES NOT HELP OUT THE PACE OF THIS DECK. Navigation and Eternal Soul are too slow for an setup and also causes DM to lose a lot due to Eternal Soul being an easy target without DMTDK, also Nav takes up 2 turns to negate a Spell/Trap, again too slow. Souls is the way better and quicker so I can use Timaeus anytime I like.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:20 pm

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    I mean joyous is almost always worth it, if for nothing other than your table 500 style ‘rogue’ decks. I still play 3 vieller as its just another 3 imperms at this point, then again I main deck at least 9 hand traps in every build so take that as you will.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:22 pm

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    Ash can be a miss mostly. It can be annoying as Hell too. But Infernoble players can play around that and spam way more monsters. Ash is really that bad in actuality. Reason why Konami never banned it, but Joyous does need to be banned for NON-spam decks.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:26 pm

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    Then you can side it out with something like Droll or Summon Limit for Infernobles. Ash is really good against a lot of decks because it can cripple a lot of plays. They still have other plays they can do, yes, but you’re still stopping that play and gaining advantage off of that. For that reason, Ash is great.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:27 pm

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    Joyous really isnt worth it. One of the worst hand traps with Effect Veiler. Droll would be a better choice. Joyous is only good against NON spam decks because players for example that use DM decks would be easy to out since DM isnt a spam deck that replies on DMC and Rod to do the work. So that being said Joyous is a nuisance against Table 500 decks and worthless against Top Tier Metagame decks. Basically a sum up of the card. It does still need to be banned against smaller decks.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:28 pm

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    You need to understand that your deck will not be viable for the meta until you make the changes everyone has been recommending to you. Don’t start making excuses about ways your deck could work, it just doesn’t so take these ideas everyone has told you about. Also try out the new cards on Duelingbook and come back to us on the results.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:35 pm

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    Ash is only good against smaller decks that can easily be crippled. That’s not news. Summon Limit can still be outmaneuvered and its a trap so not worth the time. Ash really isnt great but it does need to be banned. One of the worst overused cards in history, Ash and Ghost Ogre doesnt disrupt any key plays except in smaller decks. Doesnt make the card good in any shape or form to any real threats in meta. It stopped a smaller deck, but what is it doing really?

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:36 pm

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    What? (Speaking to Jobe btw) Ash is still good because, again, it cripples plays and combos. It can negate the start of a combo entirely, so that combo can’t go off. Yes, the opponent can do something else, but now they have a dead card and you’ve put them into a tight situation. Ash is great for that reason. Effect Veiler is also a great budget option for Imperm; I use it a ton IRL, as I can’t afford Imperm and shit like that for every deck I play.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:37 pm

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    I actually won on Duelingbook. Site sucks.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:39 pm

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    > Read what I just sent. It has no need to be banned, btu they can easily disrupt key plays; Ogre and negate a monster’s effect on the field, which is great. Ogre and Ash are phenomenal cards. Also, they don;t need to be banned for table 500 decks, because table 500 decks are way too rare to see enough play to matter.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:40 pm

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    > If so, good job! Could we get proof? DuelingBook is a good site, and you should really branch out more from Nexus, as Nexus is only good for beginners and testing decks.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:40 pm

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    It cripples 1 play. Doesnt make it a good card, plus you can brick with hand traps knowing they’re once per turn, also your opponent can trick you into thinking that card crippled a play which it didn’t. That’s facts.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:42 pm

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    Which is why you need to think before using handtraps.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:42 pm

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    No, not 1 play; it requires good timing and a good player. If you know how to time it well, Jobe, you can literally cripple an entire combo. Also, if your opponent tricks you, that’s on you, not the card, lol.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:43 pm

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    Not that. You can still counter the right key card and they can draw more cards. Some shit is inevitable.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:45 pm

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    I’m not gonna bother trying to help you if you refuse to get help from any of us.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:46 pm

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    Never been tricked. I seen it with other player’s that duel before. Can’t cripple an combo with 1 card unless it was a key card. I stopped the key card Striker Dragon with Imperm and I won. It depends.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:47 pm

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    This deck doesnt need help. The deck works perfectly. Just took out the top decks. Does it sound like it needs help?

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:50 pm

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    You know what I’ll duel you to try to get rid of all your arrogance. 4 pm EST works best for me.

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    October 8, 2020 at 5:51 pm

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    1) Yeah, they can draw more, sometimes. They won’t always have a pot on hand. You can still literally kill a combo and sometimes your opponent will have to go into a back-up combo, use other cards, or even set and pass.
    2) You can easily cripple a combo with one card. Just depends on the combo and card, Jobe. Also, I never said you were tricked.
    3) This mentality is why you get so much backlash. It’s an okay DM deck but good be so much better, but you ignore all critisms. Everyone’s just trying to help you make better DM decks that could actually have a chance of competing in the meta, but you refuse to acknoledge any faults.

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    October 8, 2020 at 6:04 pm

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    Okay and what deck you’re going to be using? To be curious. Also are you coming to Nexus?

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    October 8, 2020 at 6:09 pm

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    I can tell you never duel meta before. They dont need Pot cards to draw, they can use Fallen Paradise, Infernobles, Dracos, and etc to draw/add cards with ease. Smfh. You dont get it. Lol
    You can cripple a board or an deck but not with Joyous. With FLOODGATES. Joyous is small time. Barely an inconvenience to any Top Tier decks.
    Its an OK DM deck? Its more than OK. ITS GREAT. 👍
    You players mad at DM beating Tier decks thats why, if that is what you players are upset about, come duel me. Its open to anybody.

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    October 8, 2020 at 6:18 pm

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    I do duel meta. I play online and such; I just said pot as more so an umbrella term for drawing cards, as i’m not gonna list out every single card that’s used to draw cards.
    Of course, Joyous can’t effect everything, but it can effect some stuff and when it does do it and when timed properly, and it can be more than an inconvience.
    It’s just okay in it’s current state. It’s ratios are off, you’re playing a bad fusion spell, etc. I’d love to help you with it if you’d just listen to me.
    I’m not mad at anything, dude. I want to help you and be your friend, Jobe, and i’ve made that clear in DMs, but it’s really hard when you push everyone away like this. I can duel you in a bit today, I just need to finish schoolwork.

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    My point was exactly that. It can’t affect everything like a floodgate can. Droll would be superior to Joyous. I said it earlier today.

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    Floodgates aren’t even what i’m talking about though. Joyous can negate searches and such, so it can stop the start of combos and force your opponent to waste cards like Cynet Mining and have dead cards on the field like Lady Debug if they dont have stuff like Link-1s.

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    Sigh. Then that proves my point about what is stopping 1 search going to do? Whether its a key card or not. That’s why we got floodgates instead. And thats why Joyous isnt banned because of floodgates existing. We got floodgates that can also block your opponent from searching. Hell of a lot better than Joyous.

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    Most floodgates also affect you, though, and a lot of the time they easily can hurt you, so a lot of floodgates aren’t played. It’s best to play floodgates and joyous, as Joyous can cripple a search as well as floodgates. You have to note that a lot of floodgates are pure traps, but Joyous is a hand trap that can be played during either turn.

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    Also, your opponent can easily remove or negate floodgates, but it can be fairly hard to negate Ash, as she’s not on the field, and she’s not a spell or anything.

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    Umm no. Its easy to negate and stop joyous also. Borreload laughs at that card. Joyous def is the worst card of all time. Only good against small time decks. In any real match up, Droll and Floodgates are better.

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    I will say this particular format ash does kind of suck since dogmatika invoked and d-link do perform a multitude of search effects; so droll is objectively better right now. The majority of the time formats slow down and ash is more relevant.

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    Dinosaurs also search a lot too. The top three decks also banish stuff, so lancea isn’t bad either

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    Joyous is still pretty great against stuff that searches, I don’t get how it’d suck. Borreload isn’t even that competitive anymore, and there’s less stuff to negate Joyous with than there’s stuff to negate floodgates with.

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    @LordObamaHimself True, the only think that can negate monster handtraps are gamma, and soon crossout designator. How about Infinite impermanence. Is that good?

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    I don’t think Imperm can stop hand traps, so yeah, it’s just Crossout and Gamma. Gamma’s pretty popular, yeah, but Crossout hasn’t even been brought over to the TCG yet, and it also forces you to run hand traps as well, so.

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    No, I meant is imperm a good handtrap. True I wish called by the grave wasn’t limited

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    Oh! I’m dumb. Yeah, Imperm is a great handtrap.

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    I just noticed that he put the deck as nonmeta in deck tags, but he is calling it meta??

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    Non Meta because its not a metagame deck that’s mostly used by players but it is META RELEVANT as an ROGUE DECK. That’s why.

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    oh, that makes sense

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    October 8, 2020 at 11:59 pm

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    Did you guys play yet?

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    what do u mean

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    DM’s aren’t meta right now, so you should refrain from calling these decks meta or rogue or whatever. Allso,s hit, we have not. Wanna play now, Jobe?

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    Dinosaurs are meta right?

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    Correct.

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    Anything thats not meta, becomes Rogue (basically meta RELEVANT) if it CAN COMPETE with the meta. You really got to learn the hang of this. Smh. Lol

    Which makes DM meta relevant as an Rogue deck, but thats why I put it as non meta because its not a deck used by many and even as a Rogue. So…

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    Your definition of rogue is flawed.

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    But, what? The thing is, DM can’t really compete with the meta. We’ve been telling you to use DB and try an actual tourney or something when they open up, but you refuse to do any of that. You’re just using Nexus, which people use to mess around or test decks. Your wins there don’t make DM rogue.

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    October 9, 2020 at 5:38 pm

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    so by that logic you’re putting a random hodge-podge 60 card deck of all unplayable cards in the same tier with Altergeist, Zoodiac, and Salamangreat? Did i misunderstand anything that your definition of Rouge tier is?

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    Umm no Frankenturkey your logic is flawed.

    Maybe because its not an OFFICIAL Konami DUELING NETWORK. ITS MANUAL. Being Manual does NOT make the site better than Nexus or even YGOPro. DuelingBook is not even legit enough to replicate an actual TCG duel. Its just manual for slow ppl.

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    Umm no. Rogue would have to be competitive to be Tier. 60 card decks wouldnt be Rogue if thats what you’re implying.

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    October 9, 2020 at 5:56 pm

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    Out of interest jobe, have you ever topped any events with any deck ? Like now or back in the day.

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    Manual is, how the actual game works though, Jobe. Nexus is best for beginners, but it’s obvious you’re not a begginer. Nexus does everything for you, but in the IRL game, where the actual meta and competitve is, there is no hand holding. Dueling Book near perfectly replicates the IRL game.

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    Since the newer DM support came out, never tried any event yet. So no.

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    Ok, it might be worth checking out an event like the YCS or Ppg free weekly or even a locals if any are open near you, before making pronouncements about what is and isn’t rouge or meta. These events are primarily what defines that and I think a lot of people would be a lot less salty about your lists if you had some real event experience to back them up :D

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    Its not TCG regulated so no. Konami even stated they dont really like Duelingbook before and I agree. Shit is stupid and too slow. I got my first win on my first day there. Manual is no different from any other system. Manual does not mean anything. Dont care how it’s played. It dont perfectly replicate nothing. Keep telling yourself that delusional lie. If it did, Konami wouldve cosigned it instead of denouncing it.

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    October 9, 2020 at 6:11 pm

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    Bruh. Konami just denounced it because they don’t make any money from it; Konami is money-hungry. Nexus isn’t TCG regulated either, Jobe. It’s another fan project. Also, yes, try out a locals and shit.

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    I just beaten the Konamis OCG Predaplant/Dragoon (exactly replicated from their site, even with the deck using illegal cards), with this deck. Twice. 2-0. I just posted proof above. Players are salty because they hate anything that can potentially top decks that they deem to be weak or less than because they’re stupid. Thats on the players.

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    October 9, 2020 at 6:13 pm

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    Bruh what. OKay, say you did beat it. Nobody actually cares. People just don’t like your decks because you flaunt them around and get enraged when people don’t agree, Jobe.

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    Nah they couldve easily have the site shut down if they wanted to make money from it. Even Konami knows Duelingbook is a joke. Closest thing to an actual TCG is YGOPro and second close Nexus (for a lot of reasons). Locals got trash players, no thanks.

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    That’s a bot though Jobe, the meta of yugioh is defined by in person events, against real players. There are many ways to replicate that even at a distance, like you could take this to a remote duel locals and actually have this dm list count towards the actual meta. Just food for thought.

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    Enraged about? Not sure whats to be enraged about. Could care less what they say or believe. Just players are deluded and still be in disbelief even if I showed them how the deck works. Thats on them. So…

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    Honestly you’d be a lot better of a player and deck builder if you weren’t so damn arrogant all the time, like come on, you’re an adult. Try acting like it.

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    What? Shutting it down doesn’t mean they’ll make money from it. YGOpro doesn’t even have it’s own dueling emulator, it’s jsut a forum, deck builder, and deck poster, and nexus is just good for deck testing. Nexus is closer to the video games than the actual game. Also, see, this is also why people dislike you. You’re such an elitist. You won’t even go to a locals because you automatically assume everyone there is trash, Jobe. That’s such an asshole mentality, and makes people immediately dislike you. Also, yeah, Nexus’ bots are shit. Just giving it a really good deck doesn’t make it hard to beat. Also, what Cryptid said. You’re 27 bro.

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    Well then there’s real meta players I mollywhopped with this deck. As stated above, I beaten Dragon Link 2-1. I got beat in the first match, then I negated the key cards and they surrendered the second match, same thing again next match and beat them. So… those were real players. Still in disbelief I guess…

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    So you beat an actual human in an event or is this just another bot victory ?

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    There’s no real meta players on Nexus, Jobe. as I said in the past, Nexus is just used for messing around and testing decks. Just because someone’s using a meta deck doesn’t mean they’re a great meta player. I literally play against kids running meta decks and I beat them easily. It depends on the player, not the deck- and Nexus is full of bad players.

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    Arrogant about? The deck? So me stating the truth is arrogance? Is that what players believe? But they’re in disbelief when I say I beaten them all which is the truth. More funny. These meta decks been beaten by DM in a course of months no matter how many times I switch up the decklist. Thats all facts. Deal with it. Yall mad because you are.

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    Just said it was an actual human.

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    No, you’re just a super arrogant person and a dick in general. You refuse to play at a locals because you think everyone there is trash. You automatically assume this is meta based off of duels online on a shitty emulator. Your arrogance is disgusting and pushes everyone away.

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    Umm no. There is meta players on there. Trust. Yall dont speak for the whole site on there. Duelingbook got a lot of trash on there and wack duelist. Again, Manual doesnt make the site and players any good.

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    Yeah on nexus, which doesn’t count in the first place. Look if your decks are so good why do so many people on here disagree ? You don’t see 100+ comments on my decklists telling me to grow up lol :lol:

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    I would beat a real life player too. No matter what platform. You either got it or you dont.

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    October 9, 2020 at 6:28 pm

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    Prove. It.

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    Because they never dueled me. Go figure.

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    October 9, 2020 at 6:30 pm

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    See, again, more arrogance. This is more than confidence, you just refuse to lose. You’re so afraid of losing that you won’t even play at a locals, you only play on a platform where you can win easily. But I take my leave now, as I have to go for a bit. Goodbye, Jobe.

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    October 9, 2020 at 6:31 pm

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    At least one of them did though, soul king 2-0’d you pretty easily :lol: yeah I’m jumping off this thread, been fun though 8-)

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    He did 2-0 a deck that I never used in duels. Congrats to him beating a test deck. But he never wanted a rematch. I wonder why? Why dont you ask him why.

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    Arrogance? Im humbling you in every thread about the deck, you being mad and pissed because DM seen as a vanilla deck got you players in a frenzy. Look at yall making this thread a 100+ comments, this deck really got yall triggered and shook. Thats on yall clowns lmfao. Yall really scared huh? Smdh.

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    Am back. Anyway, he didn’t rematch you because there’s no point; he won easily, and you started lying. not only are you lying now, as you technically did use the deck in a duel, but your cover story makes no sense. Why would you randomly use this worse deck than your normal deck? That makes no sense. You would want to use your best one to win and prove a point. Also, you never humbled me once, lol. I just reply because it’s entertaining, you acting like a child is funny, and I have nothing better to do.

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    Just dueled one of you hating clowns right now. I aint ever loss with this deck. Thought hand traps was enough to stop me. It wasn’t so they surrendered. Poor floodgate. Sad. More proof below:

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    Nah he didnt rematch me because hes a coward. Then when I told him it was a test deck he got more nervous. It was a test deck because I was never switched it. I forget to switch test decks all the time because I be that FOCUSED on building and seeing what the deck does need or dont need. He beat a test deck congrats to him. Didnt affect me one bit. I even told him it wasnt my real deck, he’ll even tell you I told him. So Im lying about what again?

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    Why would he get nervous about a test deck? That long winded explanation still means nothing. Also, uh huh,totally. That’s most likely just a random person. How are we supposed to know that’s an one of us and not a random person?

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    Don’t make assumptions about me dude, I dueled you 100% on your terms and still demolished you with the most basic of my combos. You had the opportunity to use your best deck, supposedly chose a test deck by mistake but did not use the chat function to alert me that you picked the wrong deck. You literally had every single opportunity to beat me and prove your point and chose not to use it. Then when I beat you, posted evidence of the loss you accepted it but then tried to spin it that you didnt use your real deck. Like come on man, why on earth would I believe that? I used my real deck on you so it wasn’t my fault that you didnt do the same though I think you really did. I think you honestly did try to beat me but just didn’t know what exactly to do against me and were out of your element; and thats ok, we all learn. Like I could duel you again however this time you have to duel on my terms. So if you want a rematch, you have to duel me on duelingbook cause thats where I prefer to play. I played you on your preferred platform, if you really want a rematch then you will have to beat me on duelingbook. If you choose not to then I ask you not make assumptions about me. Thank you :)

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    When are you free on nexus??

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    @YGOprodeck, can we get an opinion here? This man keeps making decks that we try to help him with and then he cuts us down to the stalk. It also doesn’t help that he’s a jerk. 142 comments. 142 dude.

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    I didnt choose the test deck. It was already there. I didnt alert you because we were already dueling. Yup. I accepted the loss. So what. You beat some random DM test deck. Congrats to you. So the rematch is if I duel you on the wack ass manual site? For what? The program is no different from any other, even Konami will tell you that. Wasn’t making assumptions about you, I was stating what actually happened. So…

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    Help what? Yall keep insisting I loss to Tier meta decks. I keep telling you no. Never loss to casual or meta. On or off Nexus. That’s facts. Being a jerk? Yall came on here attacking me over DM beating meta tier decks. Did you guys not? Exactly.

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    You literally called me a coward and said I was nervous, this was not the case ergo you assumed dude lmao

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    Then why not rematch on Nexus with this “luxurious” demand about “Duelingbook” because it’s “manual”?

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    Why not rematch on DuelingBook with this “luxurious”demand about DuelingNexus because it’s “automated”? The program as you said is no different from any other, even Konami would confirm it- DuelBook and Nexus are both duelling sites, yes DuelingBook may take a long time to use effects and duel, but why can’t you compromise for once, just as SoulKing did when he duelled you on Nexus?

    And sure let’s say that DuelingBook is a whack ass manual site, but you have versed SoulKing before and know that he is strong so whether some people there are as you say are slow and weak is not relevant because you know you’re up against a strong opponent.

    Also, we don’t insist that you lose, we just want you not to be so narrow-minded about duelling, thinking that you are a genius and are stronger than everyone else, know more than everyone (including about meta), know how to use DM better than everyone (i agree that better than most people) and only your opinions are valid… you should actually consider what others say and try stuff out only then will you know if their opinions are valid or not. You come across as snobby and concieted.

    And yes, people are not used to seeing DM beating meta and your numbers of 100+ win streak do seem icky, so we just want you to back that up with legitimate evidence – the reason why SoulKing wants to duel you on DuelingBook is because your duel with him is recorded, that way we can see how you will trash his ‘trash mentality’ meta deck with your ‘God Tier 0 DM deck’ and we can see your skill and brilliant tactics, being the best DM player ever – we will have legitimate proof of this.

    Then people won’t doubt your streak as much, otherwise people think you just defeat bots, or weak duelists that don’t know how to use their deck. Furthermore, when duelling you must consider that, people can get bad wi-fi connection and disconnect due to that, as well as some people being busy and needing to leave often – sure you can blame them for the lose, but it doesn’t prove that you have skill nor that your deck is strong.

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    October 9, 2020 at 11:59 pm

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    Your posts are very entertaining, sure and gain a lot of visibility but if this is what you want – attention, there are many other ways to do that.

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    Yeah at this point I think I’ve compromised more than I should have. I left my comfort zone and played you 100% on your terms by using your preferred platform. If you want a rematch you’re only going to get one by coming to my platform, plain and simple. Spin it however you want but just to be clear, I am not scared of playing you in any regard. I don’t find you or your deck to be very threatening so to me there is nothing to fear. Its also a game online with some person I will never meet so there are 0 stakes for me if I happen to lose. You don’t have to rematch me if you don’t want to, I honestly couldn’t care less if you did because dueling dark magician isn’t very good practice for me since its a matchup I will almost never come across in a tournament. If you want a rematch then you will have to play me on my platform and be fair like I was to you. I showed you respect and played on your terms, at this point I deserve the same respect. If you don’t want to play, thats fine but don’t go calling me a coward or any of that stuff because I have proven its not true. Thank you :)

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    Alright if so, then there’s nothing to talk about. Case closed. #DMNewMetaTier #DMUndefeatedStreak

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    Rigth, case closed. You proved that you were capable of defeating actual strong opponents with the legitamate proof of… not duelling with SoulKing because you don’t like the platform…or perhaps because you don’t want us to see your super-amazing duelling skills… it would be too much for us to handle… we would be stunned by your *unbreakable DM boards. #DMisFun #ToadallyGodTier0Deck #Undead streak? – regarding this didn’t SoulKing defeat you once?

    Uhmm.. since you will keep making excuses up… i think it will be enough for you to *defeat* 3 of my ‘abuseful’ meta deck across 3 matches to prove you are the greatest duelist of all time.. yea, just like Atem, however I don’t have time now and will be busy for a while so will get to that maybe in two months or so.

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    October 10, 2020 at 1:38 pm

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    Jobe, don’t respond to me just to say I’m wrong. Explain WHY you THINK I’m wrong and we can go from there, no need to be so childish.

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    October 10, 2020 at 2:02 pm

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    Hey Jobe, I wanna duel you.

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    October 10, 2020 at 3:42 pm

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    Woah, 15something replies….Damn Jobe you know how to snag some attention.

    Also really no point in dueling him if he’s just going to make inconsistent lies about his lose, or he’s going to gloat uncontrollably if he wins.

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    October 10, 2020 at 4:19 pm

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    true. but if I beat and video tape it, there’s proof.

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    Dueled 30 more times since yesterday. Still undefeated. Y’all still fuming mad. 😠 60-0

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    You might have beat 60 people but I know 1 person you didnt beat :)

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    October 10, 2020 at 8:29 pm

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    Who? I never loss with this deck. Im not counting a test deck as an loss. Anybody can beat a test deck. Congrats if you consider that a real challenge. 👍 good job.

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    October 10, 2020 at 8:31 pm

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    Rondasrich what time works for you?

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    October 10, 2020 at 8:31 pm

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    Also what deck are you using?

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    October 10, 2020 at 8:33 pm

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    Rondasrich PM me on a time and deck you’re using for Nexus. I’ll meet you there. Three matches.

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    Dinos and I am free now

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    I am using dinos, and I am free now

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    This guy has to ask what deck you’re playing before hand lmao

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    lol is he even on. imagine me beating him with kozmos

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    I dont think this gives validity to the argument though since you had full hand knowledge

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    the fact that this has 150+ comments cause a grown man was nostalgia high and wanted purple cosplay magician to be meta is really sad

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    Ye i had full knoweledge, but my Ravine was locked anyway so I couldn’t add anything first turn…my strategy would be pretty much the same except maybe i may have kept Romulus instead of going into Spheres. Also, I knew the Dragunity hand with DM deck so opponent maybe wouldn’t have negated Rom. Anyways, I want to take Jobe on too once I have more time.

    I think its ok to want DM to be meta, it’s his favourite deck. Mine is Dragunity, and before the new support cane out, Dragunity was OK but it couldn’t play against most decks, so I wanted it to get more support, that way I could duel with it more often. Now it can *sometimes* compete with meta and I use it more and it’s fun. It’s ok to wait for new support… or try to improve your deck to max potential but you need to be more realistic about your deck strength in current meta.

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    You guys done commenting yet? Henrybitch you’re stupid as fuck. Not sure why you got your weak ass 3 likes up there like that validates you when it dont. Y’all come on profiles criticizing and bitching on here about what yall dont like or dont believe. You clowns been invited to Nexus multiple times. Its either duel me or shut the fuck up.

    Including you SoulKing. You’re the last one to talk. You beat a test deck with some meta garbage, congrats you can STFU about the cheap win now. Doesnt mean nothing. Henrybitch your opinion is as trash as the deck you used, either put up or shut up. Neo, your dumbass knew about the whole hand, second that aint me, I def wouldve beaten you with that hand, your opponent started the combo wrong like a dumbass and failed. Whoever stupid ass that was needs to be smacked in the face. Who the fuck activates Circle first? Smfh. That was really dumb.

    I killed Dragunity with this deck multiple times. That aint me so I could careless.

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    October 11, 2020 at 6:45 am

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    An smart opponent would’ve waited next turn or activated Magicians Souls to dump DMG to the GY, then activate Circle to search right before using Servant to draw that added card to your hand. Next card he could’ve added (if he knew what he was doing and playing it smart), shouldve been Rod to add Secrets to get more draw power since Evenly had been activated. Real dumb opponent you chose. Neo it still doesnt mean nothing. I wouldve killed you in 2 matches like how I beat every Dragunity deck.

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    October 11, 2020 at 7:10 am

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    If you would have waited to use ur cards I would go on to OTK you on 2nd turn, even if you summoned Dark Magicians with Secrets it would be bounced back (also there’s no guarantee that you could search anything with circle and I just realised that the OP used Circles during first duel and not the second one ~DM GY is 2nd duel. And ye in the first duel OP did search Rods but I won that one anyway). And ye this is exactly what i mean about you think you’re smarter than everyone else and lack awareness. Haha, yea i would like to see you beat me once I’m free.

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    October 11, 2020 at 7:44 am

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    i don’t duel on a glitchy site that validates your wins with this shit deck that’s more bricky than the great wall of china

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    October 11, 2020 at 9:29 am

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    Locking this post and handing out warnings. Bans will be handed out if people can’t be civil towards each other.

    Name calling will NOT be tolerated here. Should I see it again there will be instant bans.

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