DM Meta Semi-Competitive
| Deck Information | |
|---|---|
| Deck Type: | Non-Meta Decks |
| Deck Master: | Dark Magician |
| TCG/OCG: | TCG |
| Submission Date: | January 26th 2021 |
| Author: | jobe04051993 |
| YGOPRODeck File Download | |
There's 3 different builds of this deck. Won 8-2 (but really 9-1) in a tournament against top tier relevant meta & rogue decks.
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DARK MAGICIAN BEST DECK!!! LETS GO!!!
this is bad
its just handtraps and floodgates and anything that isnt a ht or floodgate is bad
you said before that this is a swiss deck. I guess all the players there are just horrible. I bet it went 8-2 just because of the sheer amount of handtraps that you have to play just to make this bad archetype somewhat playable
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Lowkey it was actually swiss. Isnt meta nothing but handtraps though (from what you “meta” players claim I dont have enough, smfh)? Now handtraps make this deck bad??? But if youre really smart, its not the floodgates that make this deck good. Its the combos of relooping to repeatedly a card from your GY, banishing, and protecting your board. Theres 2 other builds that makes this deck lowkey 10-0.
Why are you running El Shaddoll Winda alone?
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If you think that decks full of handtraps and fucking dark magician are meta, yu are just so bad at this game
The meta:
Drytron
D-link
Adimaancipator
Infernble
Zoodiac
Dogmatika invoked
eldlich
Note that dark magician is nowhere to be found
and most meta decks don’t play more than 6 handtraps unless they are a control deck.
” Isnt meta nothing but handtraps though ” just shows how out of touch with the meta you are
DM is slow, has bad payoffs, and turbos a monster that does nothing at all
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Please provide the source of whatever tournament it is you claim that actually played this deck and got an 8-2 record.
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DM is slow where? The deck plays great. The monster does everything it needs to. Obviously you still know nothing about structuring a competitive deck, it really shows in these “heated debates”.
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Floodgate or to combo with Tuners. Remember, theres 2 other builds way better than this one. 1 of them involves Synchro summoning.
Just saying just because your playing a meta deck or has meta components doesn’t mean you can play it right, I’ll admit I’ve played some dinosaur and I still could not win and yes I’m stupid because dinos are the easiest thing in the world yadda yadda yadda, but the point is that may be why you won against all of those people you were playing a somewhat competitive deck with the knowledge of how to play it against people with good deck who did not know how to play it
or your a cheater and/or lair.
How do you summon Dragoon with this deck
Nvm I guess you could summon Imduk and use Magicalized Fusion but I really wouldn’t recommend it.
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You cant cheat in a tournament. Lmfao.
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Verte. I would recommend Red Eyes Fusion rather than Magicalized. I use Magicalized personally.
Also I tried the deck out quickly on a simulator here are a few things
Cut Droll you can’t use it and Dimension Shifter there are better cards
Second where the Fs a dragon to summon Dragon Knight and Dragoon and Wheres Red Eyes Fusion
Third Cut Millenium eyes there are better cards
Fourth Run Some spell book cards to help get more material
Also how do win you would be defeated before you get Quintet Out because most of your spell casters are handtraps and to survive you probably have to play them and remember you need 5
I like it!! So much removal and handtraps and floodgates!! I like your style. Kill opponent with mystic mine/handtraps/removal cards/floodgates and attack directly with Dm for the win!! Let’s goooooo
You Do Know that other decks probably run something to stop that from happening right or am I the only person who runs the solemn cards
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It’s not a floodgate if it gets destroyed at the end of the turn it gets summoned, since you can only bring it out with instant fusion (same applies with millenium-eyes)
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Really, I didn’t know that there was some magical barrier that drops around one when one enters a tournament, just because you can’t doesn’t mean people don’t still try, some can even get away with it. While cheating is illegal it doesn’t mean it can happen. Murder is illegal, but it doesn’t stop it from happening.
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Exaxtly, this deck is fucking insane. The other 2 builds are way better than this. Im aware this deck is just formatted on purpose but I did test this out with the other 2 builds and the other 2 builds are superior, but this is my preference choices because how I chain and navigate my plays. I might upload the other 2 builds soon this week.
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True. But it was for another build and a turbo out.
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Droll or Phantazmayz is needed at 3.
Shifter can be replaced with Ghost Belle.
Millennium Eyes dont need a cut but Shaddoll Winda does since Im not turboing out Synchro plays.
Spellbook engine is not formatted for this deck. Use Soul Servant and use Desires instead.
Red Eyes Fusion is superior than Magicalized. So you can take out Quintet.
Jobe, I completely understand how you would love DM to win 1st. I would love to see Crystron top but some cards are just meant to be ran. For example think to yourself, does my deck need it’s normal summon. If your deck doesn’t then you should probably run a Spellbook engine if your deck is mainly Spellcasters. For DM I personally see REF being very useful because of the fact Dragoon is pretty strong right now.
you guys really are the definition of insanity, it’s actually pathetic
I get that DM is a bad archetype and that Jobe is annoying with how much he defends it but like ya’ll are going hard over something so insignificant.
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How is it a bad archetype??? This is a question that real players been wanting to know. Point out cards or decks that make it a bad archetype and I’ll point out why youre wrong and why players cant comprehend strategies.
Jobe, go play another game cause your just a troll who sucks at yugioh
AND STOP FUCKING SAYING FUCKING BLOODY DM IS MOTHERFUCKING META!
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You’re right, I just commented because jobe said something that goes up in the ranks of all time stupidity for him.
Some random guy calls DM Meta, no one bats an eye
Jobe calls DM Meta, everyone loses their minds!!!!!
Why do y’all even try anymore? He doesn’t care. He’s not going to listen to you. You guys are just arguing for a lost cause here.
I’ll confess it’s really funny to watch sometimes
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Real players already know how its bad. It’s overly slow and one of its key cards straight up Raigeki’s your field when destroyed by MST. The only good cards of the archetype is Soul’s and Dragoon and it’s way better used in other decks. Being a DM player we know you know why it’s bad.
yeah, sure, totally ignore Toon Lord’s advice. Toon was saying it how it is
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Their comment didn’t even appear to me til after I finished my comment and refreshed the page
dorp it just why you know what happened last time. (but question who do you Win 8-2 but really 9-1)
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Think you forgot dogmatika, shaddoll and invoked in that list and I am not really sure infernoble is in either. I could be wrong tho. Also Tribrigade, prank-kids and pk
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those were the first things that i came up with. and infernoble is still good
My reasoning for still discussing this with Jobe because we don’t see many players actually put this much effort into a single archetype. Although I have to admit it is annoying whenever we offer him advice and he tosses aside.
that’s just weak reasoning and frankly just sad
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Eternal Soul??? You got Dragon Knight and Dark Magic Expanded for that. THOSE ARE GOOD CARDS. You see how far from a smart strategists you are???
Actually DMs best cards are listed here:
https://ygorganization.com/darkmagicianguide2020/
ALSO, Legacy of the Duelist blocks your opponent from Setting MULTIPLE Traps/Quick-Plays while relooping a monster (hand traps too).
Again yall are not smart strategists. This been proven time and time again. YALL ARE JUST “AVERAGE” META PLAYERS, nothing more nothing less.
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Because of the different builds, same deck.
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We know we’re not the smartest players, but if we are just “average” then your just garbage, as a duelist and a human being.
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LMAO ok Jobe continue to be hysterical it’s extremely funny to see how much you fail to defend your archetype.
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I had not heard anything explaining how DM is bad, I just refuted your claim above.
Has anyone tried this deck yet???
Time Magician Deck???
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Then your points don’t stand
there is nothing wrong with liking dark magician xcr27 your just being a jerk at the monument.
it’s sad you guys really have nothing better to do
I do
you really don’t if you’re continuously talking to jobe thinking he’s going to change his ideals
Eh, if he wants DM to be meta let him try.
Also, please quit fighting, its not even jobe starting anymore. Why go to someone you know you’ll argue with? What a waste of time.
the day that jobe posts a decklist that gets no backlash is the day the world ends
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Its called being “delusional”
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First person here who gets it
Actually, he did decent ngl, sure would be nice to see REF and a small Spellbook engine but if his list works it works
Also he has admitted to REF being the better card, just leave it
Also really wanna duel against this deck, just to see how much it could do.
Anyway, there’s my two cents. If you’re still arguing with a troll/actual DM stan in 2021, then you’re just a pretty sad person. There’s better things to do
Also try Pends sometime Jobe lol
he’s done pends
Jesus christ, I said i’d stop posting here and this shit happens. This deck is dog shit that needs to get out another fusion inconsistently just to get the only good DM card out (Dragoon), and Jobe is still lying about win rates. He’s lied about win rates before, don’t trust him on that.
To everyone else, don’t fucking bother speaking to him. He’s a transphobic manchild overwhelmed with nostalgia. It’s not worth your time.
you really can’t keep a promise huh?
I really can’t.
sort the deck please
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Just for you I will. I got more DM decks coming. Any type you like… we got them all. Cyber Dragon/DM, Pends./DM, ZEXAL/DM, Ultimate Protagonists (DM/HERO/Stardust/Utopic/Pend./Link), Slifer/DM, Eldlich/DM, Infernobles/DM, Dragon Link/DM, and etc… you name it.
DRAGON LINK DM? WOW OK – I think you could use dragoon there
please dont touch infernoble
lets see u make a good dino dm
or sunavalon dm.
or gemini dm
how about ojama dm
or mucus yolk like dm
Tenyi/DM/Spiral is pretty OP
Hi, I like your deck idea, but it seens a bit bricky in my opinion, also I wouldnt run mystic mine, at least not in the main deck, instead I would run something like secret village of spellcasters and magicians hands., also I fell you dont need too much handtraps, maybe only ash and impermanence, with nibiru and lancea in the side should be fine. I would also run so draw cards like pots, maybe extravagance is your best bet, but its up to you. You may want to consider using soul servant (with 1 dark magician girl), magicians navigation and aprentice magician, these cards are great support for dark magician. Consider running eye of timaeus to get dragoon on the field.
spyral spell it right
Fine if no one has explained why dark magician is bad then I will. First it relies on continuous spells and traps and back row destruction is so good nowadays there practically useless. Second protection against card effects, if you don’t have eternal soul your dead. Third most cards can attack over it, I mean most decks have a 3000 atk monster or higher whether it be accesscode or borrelsword most decks can atk over it sure you might have illusion magician but that can’t be consistently done, fourth there you can’t consistently win with it because they don’t really specialize in lasting more than 1 turn at most. Finally there just not consistent enough to win in general. Sixth there really slow, you might have given your opponent several negates before you get the combo rolling. That is why no one plays dark magician and stop acting like a two year old and say yes take our advice were handing on a silver platter and eat it and not make a big mess of it like a two year old
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He’s not going to listen, just stop. Either meme on him or go away, nothing productive will come out of a discussion with him.
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perfect summary
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I did.
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Theres different builds of this deck so yes, those cards you mentioned can be tech variations of it but this is 1 of the DM formats to be competitive against meta decks.
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Again. I guess I have to explain why this logic of players is flawed. YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CARDS TO PROTECT THE FIELD. RANGING FROM MAGIC EXPANDED TO DRAGON KNIGHT. WITH SOULS BEING A GREAT CARD, YOU CAN EASILY SETUP DRAGON KNIGHT OR USE TIMAEUS IN ORDER TO PROECT ETERNAL AND CIRCLE.
Second, DM DOES NOT HAVE TO RELY ON BACKROW, IT CAN ALSO RELY ON MONSTERS TOO. THIRD, YOU GOT CARDS THAT CAN BANISH HIGH ATK MONSTERS AND THEN AGAIN YOU GOT EXPANDED & TWIN BURST MAGIC THAT CAN TRIPLE ITS ATK OVER ANY ATK BEATER.
I LASTED MORE THAN 1 TURN IN EVERY DUEL I BEEN IN. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Its consistent if youre smart enough in making it consistent. You discard or dump Navs easily to setup a negate, why would that be slow? You do know you also got MAGICIANS COMBINATION TOO??? DM is great. DM can avoid Nibiru, Impermanence, and cannot be easily stopped by handtraps unless the opponent is really stupidly handtrap crazy.
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Because Im talking to brick walls that do not know how to operate a DM deck. Konami recently just uploaded a DM deck for you beginners who dont know how its suppose to work. Nothing productive because NONE OF YOU ARE LISTENING. Thanks dummy.
I knew this wouldn’t be productive.
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Thanks brick wall. I knew you were incoherent. Not a surprise from you.
@ygoprodeck, can you make it so that you don’t see your enemies on the main page.
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I wouldnt consider you a somebody. To be considered an enemy, you would have to be a somebody to that moral standard. I guess that would make you a nobody to me.
Im glad you put me up there as a somebody though, I dont feel the same about you.
Konami is still saying “Hi”:
For jobe, Ill be pretty honest with you. Dark magicians is a very good deck, and it does not need to combo cause its not a combo oriented deck in the first place, its a ramp deck, I mean, a deck that starts slower than others but have awesome grind game and by the the the game goes, its boards gets stronger and stronger, to a point it become unstopable, its more like eldlich, except eldlich have a grind game oriented more to its backrow unlike dark magician, that uses all 3 types of cards to maintain advantage. Also Dark magician is pretty consistent for what it pretends to do. However, I think this version of the deck is not very good, and Idk about the other versions, but this one is just too bricky, so I would rather sacrefice some handtraps for some consistency or at least for some techs like true name, slime engine and the egyptian gods, like I did in my version of the deck. So in short, Dark magician is very good and I would like to see your other versions of the deck, but this one is just not that good, cause like I said, its too bricky.
I have been trying to not bud in for a while. But i just can’t even anymore. Shadowring, DM is not a good deck, let me explain. 1: The deck relies too heavily on keeping Circle and Soul up. Both of which are cards that only have one reliable card to protect them, DM Dragon Knight. Which brings me on to my next points. 2: The ways to get to your stronger cards in the ED take up too many resources and just become impractical to get out reliably and consistently. Which brings me on to 3: The deck can’t reliably play around any handtraps at all. getting hit with an ash or imperm basically hard ends your turn there. 4: Even if you manage to get a full board set up, what do you get out of it? 1 Omni negate with Dragoon, some backrow protection with Dragon Knight, a “loop” that banishes one card on the field when you summon DM. Which is HARD ONCE PER TURN and not much of a way to reliably kill your opponent in one fell swoop. And this is ALL granted that the game even goes on long enough to even get to the point where you can even get the board set up in the first place. Which brings up point 5: YOU DON’T HAVE A RELIABLE WAY TO STALL THE GAME LONG ENOUGH TO GET YOU IN A WINNING POSITION.
Sure the deck works in a VERY CASUAL setting, but when trying to go up against actual decks that can set up multiple negates and end the duel entirely in two turns? This deck is hot garbage. That’s all i really need to say here.
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Honestly that is true DM is a great deck, its that players are not good at searching techs or other alternatives. They think because it cannot do 2 card combos like Dragon Link or something, thinking the deck sucks which is wrong. A beloved player on here proved that to not be true. Should DM get more support so it could be meta relevant AND NOT meta??? Abso-fucking-lutely. So far DM is doing great with its new support and could use more to be more relevant against both rogue and some meta tiers. Decks I built in the past proved DM is a great archetype to still be feared amongst other players.
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Not really. This is the absolute mistake ppl make thinking how DM works: Circle and Rod, but thats not entirely true. You can play DM in an aggressive format OR control format, AND/OR BOTH to make it a mid-range deck IF YOU KNOW what cards to use for it. You dont have to do the Rod & Circle setup first, now you can do TDMs & Servant setup, DMTDK & Circle/Eternal setup, and the DM & DMG/Nav & Combination setup also, same for REF & Dragoon/Draw engine. YOU other players are not looking hard enough to build good DM decks.
You do know Legacy of the Duelist is a good card??? Basically a Set Spell/Trap floodgate while recycling monsters AND THEN you can negate monsters with Destined Rivals. Getting Kaiju’d or Nibiru’d is cool because of the spam and you can banish all over again.
Try these techs for a DM deck next time:
The True Name
Legacy of the Duelist
Destined Rivals
Palladium Oracle Mana
Instant Fusion
Magicalized Fusion
Red Eyes Fusion
Magicians Combination
THAT SIMPLE.
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I used to play this deck for about 3-4 months before dropping it. I think i know what i’m talking about
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Thats a good idea. Show me your best DM deck and I’ll show you why its wrong. I will tell you what you need in it.
One Denko sekka can almonst stop dark magicians because the ways to get dm on the field are in the trap cards. There are better rogue/fun decks that would have better competitive success
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That is true but the whole point of DM is making him both AGGRESSIVE AND CONTROL so you can avoid Denko with ease. Thats the point Im clearing making. That way either way you begin, you got a clear advantage of starting off your duel.
So for example if you come across Denko, DM must play in an aggressive style: Dark Dragoon or DMTDK to destroy her so you can Set.
BUT if you get hit with a monster floodgate like There Can Be Only One, then you must play in an control fashion then remove it afterwards.
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I have two actually.
https://ygoprodeck.com/dark-magician-110/
https://ygoprodeck.com/dark-magician-100/
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Thats not a DM deck though nor would I consider this competitive.
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1: if it’s not a DM deck, than what is it? 2: it’s not suppose to be
For jobe, like I said darm magician is good, just not this profile.
For zeekou, I desagree on point 1 cause it does not rely solely on circle and soul, sure these cards really helps the deck, but there are other ways to summon the monster, get advantage and even protect your board. On point 2 its true that it consume lot of resource, but the deck does what is supposed to be done, which is being a ramp deck, so the trade off is worth it. I agree with you on point 3, handtraps can really hurt the deck, but handtraps can hurt many other decks, sometimes even the meta, so thats not a reason to confirm the deck is bad, cause handtraps ae just retarded cards made to try to counter retarded meta decks. On point 4, dark magician can run many good techs like secret village of spell casters, magicians hands and even egyptian gods, so these techs alongside with the already existing techs make very good boards. Point 5 is totally wrong, You can stall the opponent in many ways just like I mentioned before. Dark magician can be competitive, I even won against some good decks like shadoll, dino and even eldlich. Dark magician is a very good deck, its just not meta, but it doesnt need to be meta to be good. I think dark magician is somewhere between good casual decks and good rogue decks, so maybea mid tier rogue deck.
Jobe, I was talking about the foes list, I just never want to hear from you again.
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Make matters more interesting DM just won a OCG tournament this year. Yet players claim Konami made it an “bad archetype”. Bad archetypes are NOT KNOWN for winning OCG meta tournaments in Japan. Smfh. Im still trying to figure out does players want DM to succeed or want it plummet, first its “DM got too much support, he dont need more” but then its “DM dont got a lot of good support to combat meta, he needs more” LMFAO
YGO players are bipolar and hypocritical sometimes man I swear
For jobe, I think you shouldnt call them hypocritical, cause they really believe what theyre saying. I think all the people here are wrong for fighting over a card game archetype, so unlike them, I think you should be respectful and not say things like youre not my enemy cause youre not worthy. For me pride is one of the worst things you can have, so I think that if youre not like those person, you shouldnt act like them, just ignore them, they dont want to help you. Anyways, my opinion is that dark magician can compete, is just not meta, but even then it can win sometimes, I have dark magician as a high tier rogue deck personally.
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